May 29, 2010
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Rapists Getting Raped
According to a study conducted by the United States Department of Justice in 2006, there were 2,205 allegations of inmate-on-inmate non-consensual sexual acts reported in the U.S. prison system. 262 of the allegations were substantiated.
Rape is wrong, regardless, but…
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Not is they are guilty as charged. The ones I feel sorry for are the guys who are innocent, but still found guilty in court due to lies and false evidence. Now those folks I REALLY feel bad for.
No.
@Bruin_Fleet_Commander - Oh, ditto. Haha I was talking about rapists/child molesters who actually did it.
Not in the slightest.
Yes. I think they deserve it, but I tend to feel sorry for anyone who suffers in any way.
no.
nope. do unto others.
The great circle of karma. C'est magnifique!
Baby rapers should not be left in prison long enough to get raped. They need to be immediately put to death so that they can not get out and re-offend. They usually are not put into general population anyway.
Glad to see bloodlust is finally becoming fashionable again.
There's a special place in prison for child molesters, rapists & wife beaters & I dont feel the least bit sorry for them. Any man who can beat/attack a woman or child but cant stand up to a man belongs exactly where he is now....pinned to the floor of the shower.
And I dont wish that on them, it just happens.
i should but i dont. Then again, isn't it stooping down to their lever by giving them a taste of their own medicine? I'd rather lock em up in solitary confinement for 2 years and watch their brains melt.
honestly, no, i do not. i think they deserve it.
No, now they know how it fuckin feels.
yeah.
Getting a dose of their own medicine. But I am pretty sure non Rapist and pedophiles take it bent over too. Just a strong reason to not break the law.
nope. Karma has a way to get to those who do wrong.
I only feel sorry for the ones that were actually innocent, and just got put there by lies and stuff.
for the others... I feel no pity for the ones that hurt innocent people
Hell naw! Payback's a bitch. I like the idea of rapist's getting a taste of their own medicine.
@piercedandbeautiful - 2??? How about 15. That's more like it.
not at all...
an eye for an eye, right?
@j_u_n_ebug - by fifteen he'd have lost it. by the end of two would be the peak of his insanity. i15's good too. but only if he's released back into the real world. he wouldnt be able to handle it xD
Nope, not at all.
That is a difficult question.
No. Not at all. Because then they know what the experience feels like. Like an eye for an eye.
That's such a hard question. It's similiar to the whole death penalty debate.
While I have no definite opinion, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I don't think it's right. As angry as I am at the person who did it to me, I can't imagine wishing that on anyone. It's just a horrible thing to look back on and for me, as a person, I can't cheer it on. It'd be sick.
But that's not to say that if I EVER saw him again in my life, I wouldn't fuck him up. I'm not afraid of him anymore. He did his damage. Now it's my turn. I have no problem with them being in jail for life. I just don't believe in an eye for an eye, I think it's a hypocritical way to think. But I mean, I respect it. It makes sense.. for some.
Karma.
Nope, they deserve it. Karma is a bitch!
not if they were actually guilty of the crime. for those incarcerated wrongly found guilty, then yes. may god, allah, and what have you damn any criminal who wants sympathy for something they've done to others.
They don't deserve it, just like their victim didn't deserve it.
Yes I do.
Yes, I do.
I have empathy for the suffering of all people, including those who do not have compassion on others.
Yes. I mean, first of all, not all inmates raped were rapists or child molesters to begin with.
Second of all, they are doing their time. It's not justice if you allow them to be violated when it's not a part of their time.
Third of all, rapists occur across a spectrum, and I say this coming from the perspective of someone very involved in anti-rape events and everything at my college. But I think some rapists are much more cold-blooded and horrible than others. Some are closer to the made-a-really-bad-mistake-and-hurt-someone side of the spectrum.
Fourth, some rapists and child molesters were themselves victims of rape/molestation. While this absolutely does not excuse their actions, it is only furthering the circle of violence to allow rape to continue.
Fifth, rape is bad, no matter who is doing it, and for what reason.
Sixth, many rapists DO get out of prison eventually. Personally, I would rather not have a bunch of rapists coming back into society that have been violently raped in prison. Going back to point 4, getting raped does not usually have the psychological effect of people "feeling bad" for their former victims that we might want them to have. It only helps to continue the cycle of violence. Yeah, sucks that they get out of prison I guess, but it happens, and that is reality. You do not want people hyped up on violent rape coming back into society; it is US that will get hurt, not them.
Seventh: a very old and simple rule: 2 wrongs do not make a right.
I think it's a better punishment than death. Ha.
Someone commits a crime, is tried and sentenced for the crime, only to suffer from what they are convicted. Hell, no, I don't feel sorry. They lose their control in this situation. Yet isn't it ironic the criminals serving time have that much compassion to harm a rapist/molester, regardless of their own convictions?
I do feel sorry for them. People rarely learn from having bad things happen to them. This is why I think rapists should be executed (if DNA evidence checks out).
Hmm. Ya know, Mr. Ricky Drama Queen Batman-on-wheels, you threw us a Sophist dilemma. If rape is never the fault of the victim, is it poetic justice when the rapist gets a taste of his own medicine? This is sort of like the aphorism "There are no absolutes"--when you just stated an absolute.
My feeling--I have a couple. There's the Law-of-Moses / Code of Hammurabi outlook that says what you did should be done to you. Fair's fair. Even Steven.
Now for what I think--and I stress this only what I think--is the Christian response--more compicated, more nucanced. God is about what is fair. He is also greater than Fair--He's about Grace.
Under the Law of Moses, fair would be the death penalty. And sometimes, in His soveriegnty, when a person gets just a taste of what they inflicted, a moral awakening takes place. Like the Good Thief, who said, "We are getting what we deserve." And that might lead to repentance.
Just my thoughts. bro.
This post is a little misleading. One should cite the where the information is found, and it happens to be found on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape
And with quotes, one has to be clear. The information tells us that 2,205 people in prison alleged they have been raped, and of that 262 have been substantiated. Of that figure, we do not know how many of them are rapists or child molesters. Therefore, not all victims of rape in prisons are not sex offenders. Now to the question. I don't feel sorry for them, but that's irrelevant because this is a question about justice and fairness. Of the raped prisoners who are sex offenders of some sort, is them being raped justice? Justice is defined by the law. Is it right for what happens to them or to any person? No. That's not what they're sent to prison for. If you murdered someone, should you just be killed? So when we send rapist to prison, should they raped? That's not what they were judged and sentenced for. If we wish these evils to others and allow it to happen, even those who are guilty, then we are no better than the criminals themselves. As a society, we have to better ourselves. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said, "The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding. It seems to annihilate rather than to convert."
In the prison system there is a hierarchy Rapist and child molesters are the lowest of the low, its a sort of strange code of honor even in jails, child molesters and rapists are treated lower than dirt by the other inmates to the point some prisons have a separate wing for them or had to come up with a fake cover story in order to place them in general population of the prison system.
I personally have no pity for them.....
@PseudoEuphoric - I want them to have death to make sure they never get out again to hurt another child.
nope.
This country is way to lenient on rapist and child molestors. The crimes they commit have a lasting impact on their victims. They deserve the same punish they inflicted on their victims. They don't deserve to sit in prison on the tax payers dollar. The American justice system is a joke.
I don't believe it's up to me to dole out judgment and punishment, but I do believe that in this case, what goes around comes around. It's all in good karma.
Only the ones that got pregnant.
As a survivor of rape, HELL no. This is what I call karma. It's not revenge. It's not like someone hired them to get raped. It just happened. You know, the universe doing their thing and all.
What goes around comes around. No, I do not feel sorry for them.
No way. They totally deserve it...
Can't rape the willing..
yeah
i've never been to the slammer, but i hear that prisoners don't take kindly to child molesters/rapists. i don't know what they do to them.
Nope.
So....were those case numbers from child molesters/rapists? Personally, what comes around goes around so no I do not feel sorry for rapists getting raped.
But would it be the same impact if a murderer got raped or a drug dealer got raped? Somehow I find justice if the murderer got killed instead of raped....like getting a taste of their own medicine. And a drug dealer....well I don't think that crime is severe as murder or rape or child molestation so I guess doing time is a just punishment.
Noppppe!
They certainly earned it, and no, I don't feel sorry for them. It's not as if I've got some sort of moral conviction against rapists, and I'm not sadistic; by pure logic these criminals get exactly what they should expect to get.
1. Raping a person is illegal.2. Breaking the law to this degree often results in time in prison.3. It's well known and advertised that people get raped on prison all the time.
They put themselves in this position. it's no ones fault but their own. No pity.
*Insert social commentary about how people always behave horribly and irresponsibly then expect sympathy.*
@thegreenlinda - I could be wrong, but I don't think it's possible to get a taste of being murdered.
With other inmates with more up their sleeves.
Inmates are no civilians anymore locked up together their just inmates.
Yup thats right better not let that soap drop.
No.
and anyone that does, they have not experienced anything like it, so stfu.
An eye for an eye would make the whole world blind.
I do not feel shocked and outraged as I do when I hear of what they did. But I certainly would not condone it.
No, usually people who have problems are already hostile and that only makes it worse. I would probably work on trying to find a center in them to grow while making it so that they couldn't fulfill their probelm.
@persevere88 - no, people would think twice before doing something because it would come back at them and not everybody would lose an eye. A child being raped and an adult are two separate things. One is not one. Therefore, you kind'of have to think about it.
No more lower joy. That's a privilege.
There's a sort of poetic justice, if the rapists are getting raped. And anyway, we all know that some jails are bad, so it's a case of, "if you can't do the time, then don't do the crime."
errmmm some people r in prisio n r being called rapist n child molesters when really they r not, sometimes people lie, if these people r getting raped then i dnt like it.
That prison security should be improved.
It is not a question of feeling sorry for anyone. Rape is not part of the legal system of punishment and therefore illegal. To allow mistreatment of any prisoner says a lot of the civilisation of a nation. America, which is where I assume you are from without checking, is a shameful country of brutal prisons. No wonder the average prisoner comes out more fucked up that when they went in.
I guess they are experiencing what it feels like to be treated like a piece of trash.
It does seem a sort of poetic justice in a way but I pretty much feel sorry for anyone who's abused even if they're very evil.
I don't believe an eye for an eye makes the world a better place. Revenge itself doesn't permanently take away a victim/survivor's pain. As a survivor, there might've been a time when I would've been happy to hear about him being raped, but I don't think that helped me heal and I certainly don't think it made me a better person. Of course I can't speak for all victims/survivors.
Do I think they should be raped while imprisoned? No. Do I feel sorry for them? Honestly I don't know. Although I'm clearly in the minority, I don't think it's right. Rape is rape. Why would we want to increase the hurt and pain in the world? I don't.
Wow, I'm glad Xanga commenters aren't running the prisons. It's not right to let someone suffer, ever.
Besides, many rapists had been sexually assaulted prior to their crime. This stuff doesn't just come from nowhere. People who have been raped are more likely to rape others. Shame on all the Xangans who want to perpetuate this trend.
Yes. An eye for an eye makes the world blind.
Well in essence I don't think it's right. Most child molesters I would say a fair percentage of them were molested as children also. Most women beaters watched their fathers do it to their mothers. It doesn't make it right for them to copycat though. But allowing them to be molested in prison would be mind torture to someone who had been molested as a child. While molesting a child in my book can never be paid back to society... and the success rate of transforming a pedophile is very small. Molesting them sure doesn't help, it continues the cycle. And may contribute to the very small number of success rates we see in pedophiles already.
Nope...they get to now feel like their victims.
as the mother of a child who was raped anally and vaginally at the age of 6, i PRAY her rapist got/gets raped EVERY DAY he's in prison.
either that or just shanked with a very big knife.
capital punishment to me is killing the pedophiles and child molestors. and wiping them off the planet.
karma.
Wow, I am really surprised at how many people said rapists deserve to get raped. Do unto others? An eye for an eye? It just doesn't make any sense to me that an act so awful and wrong and horrible could ever be something that someone deserves, yes even if that person has done it him/herself. It might be a controversial opinion, but I just don't think rape and murder should happen to anyone, ever, and its never right or justifiable. So yes I feel sorry for rapists who are raped and no I don't believe in the death penalty, and I don't particularly understand people who wish things like that on anyone.
I'm half and half on this. On one hand, rape is wrong and shouln't happen under any circumstances. On the other hand, these guys deserve whatever is coming to them.
Yes, I would feel sorry for them. It's such a vicious cycle, these tragic and unfortunate events. I've read enough Latin American (magical realism) novels to see life appropriately fitting as a circular structure. So, I say break the rape cycle .... besides what if the child, if the rapist has one, see or hears about his or her parent getting raped? I would think that would possibly continue this vicious cycle.
Inmates have a code of ethics too I suppose. Nope, rapists deserve what they get.
I dont wish rape on anyone. I just dont. I'm sort of sorry so many here do. I understand why they do but I dont feel the same.
While I wouldn't wish it on them, specifically, I wouldn't feel bad for them if they really raped a child or another person.
But I'd feel bad if it was some 18 year old guy who slept with his younger girlfriend and got in trouble for it. :
You know, apparently even the murderers in jail don't want to put up with child molestors. Those guys seriously take a beating because even the hard, toughened criminals are disgusted by crap like that.
@ScarletMoth - well stated.
Sure, they fuckin' deserve it, but it shouldn't be allowed to happen anyway.
Oh. that wasn't the question. No, I don't feel bad for them, lol.
rape is wrong. i feel bad for anyone it happens to, even if they themselves have done the raping. if an eye for an eye mentality was the way the entire world looked at the things in life, there would be a never ending chain of crime and violence. who are we to judge others when we commit our own atrocious acts, whether big or small? wrong is wrong is wrong and that's it.
that's just hilarious.
no, but I don't wish it on them.
@ScarletMoth - Great comment.
Nope.
@flyfox65 - lol that's a good point now that I think about it. At the time of writing the post I was thinking about them being sentenced to death row and how that would make them feel....if some can feel anything.
KARMA.
I don't feel sorry for them, but I don't wish it on anyone or believe it's right.
they should get the death penalty and not be aloud to live that long.
rapists are the scum of society. Child molesters and rapists however make them look nice.
They deserve it - getting a taste of their own medicine
Karma is a bitch - comes back to bite you in the ass
An eye is for an eye.
Wow you guys are assholes who said you don't care...karma is a cute quaint idea but still fucked up...
what goes around, comes around
Not at all. They're getting what they deserve.
Puzzling...I'm not really into the whole "eye for an eye" kind of deal, but that's just karma for you.
@DreamAnotherDreamTomorrow - "They don't deserve it, just like their victim didn't deserve it. " Agreed.
Its interesting to see so many people approve of rape.
And to DearRicky,
If rape is never your fault, like in your last post,is it a rapist's fault for being raped in jail?
I think studies have shown that many rapists were sexually abused as children. So, yes, I do feel some compassion for them as the cycle of violence did not necessarily originate with the rapist. However, even though incarceration will never cure them, I think a rapist should be kept off the streets as long as possible.
@Colorsofthenight - Fair enough, you make a good point. But I do not agree with your child/adult notion. Rape is rape. If I find a 21 year old woman or a 40 year old man gets raped, I feel as sick as if they had been a 4 year old child. Rape in my eyes is one of the cruelest things any human being could do to another. As I say, I do not feel disgusted if a rapist gets raped, but I certainly do not condone it or celebrate it or think it justice in any way for the victim.
But I guess it's actually a tough one to comprehend. I am lucky in that no-one I know has had to go through such atrocities, had such a trauma. Maybe I would feel differently if they had? Opinion is a funny thing, it can be quickly changed and altered, it is never black and white, there are always shades of grey. Thanks for giving me something to think about anyway. It is a difficult one for me to get my head around.
I just can't see me ever condoning one person being hurt by another, no matter who that person is or what they have done in life. I am athiest, but one of my favourite sayings is "If not but for the grace of God go I..." Okay I shall stop rambling now, sorry!
@persevere88 - it's not that I care about the differrent, but society does because they'll twist it around a child for worth and that'll define the child and the child will grow up in a false way too young and that dirt will cling. Like, she or he'll go the therapy and be a drunk by 11 because they're in that sphere now. Thus, I tend to view the rape of children and adults as separate because of the reactions and definitions within our society.
Women in my family have been raped. They don't talk about it all of the time, but at the time, usually young, it was something else that the rape centered around that disturbed them, like being abandoned or something. Nobody wants to be the "victim" on our level during that time. THat's a beckon for "lessons." Yet when it happens to theirs, it's the end of the world, not their lack of responsibility and ability to comprehend threats.
I've been violated, but I don't care because I'm an animal, and I'm terrified to attribute worth to anything. Now I've never been through all out rape and a few times it's been like, you're really drunk and stupid. If they did manage to cage me or would have managed to drag me in, then society would make me the bitchy victim, always feeling sorry for myself, not looking around, opening my eyes, and seeing a world full of suffering, growing. If it weren't suffering, it'd be bored.
Opinions are things of air.
Don't worry about the ramble. I do it too.
Nope. It's a dose of their own medicine.
Karma's a bitch.
*lol* what goes around eventually comes around.
Yes. Nobody deserves it.
In a word: No.
When Karma fucks you up the ass.
I don't feel "sorry" for them, in the sense that the "them" we're speaking of is pretty hypothetical. I don't know any of these rapists personally, nor whether they are serial murder pedophiles or just stupid macho men who didn't know when to take "no" seriously or even just some dumb 18 year old who got all freaky with some 16 year old girl and pissed off her father, etc. I don't know if, when they got raped, if it was full on violent sexual assault or just "somebody sucked me off against my will" etc. Everything is too vague for me to understand the situation.
As a matter of fact, Dear Ricky, you have not even clarified if these inmates getting raped were, in fact, rapists and murderers. A large portion of prisoners in our prison system are simply there for drug use.
Also, it seems to me that Dear Ricky has some very vengeful readers who don't understand the whole "two wrongs don't make a..." thing.
I don't feel sorry at all for the rapist who gets raped, because they deserve to feel what their victims felt, when they raped them.
not one bit.
That's a really good question. I'm not a huge fan for wishing such things on anyone. He's already in prison doing his time. To get raped you think it would automatically take some time of his sentence assuming he understands the pain it causes both physically and mentally.
I mean if it happens, it happens. I don't really care for anyone who would even consider the idea of raping someone. I just don't wish for such things. Karma can be a bitch after all.
They deserve it.
Nah, rape is a sign of dominance. Someone has to be king of the cells.
I do not feel "sorry" for them, but the prison system needs to eliminate this from happening because it is not just sexual assaulters who are raped in prison. If they are to be punished, it should be legally decided so. The problem is that there are too many people in prison to account for every instance of sexual assault or other co-prison abuse, due in large part to overcrowding from the "war on drugs." Once we get the victimless criminals out, the real criminals can be dealt with more substantially. Child molesters need to be chemically castrated (studies in the past have shown a remarkably lower recidivism rate, think 1% to 66% of chemically vs. non-chemically castrated), and perhaps physically as well (for compensation purposes. I.e.: Why should a person who sexualy abuses another be allowed to feel sexual pleasure ever again? Especially considering that can very often be the case for victims). That should be at the discretion of a court, not other criminals (whom are not necessarily morally conscious, as it is).
I'm not normally a vindictive person but even after I sat and thought about this for a while I couldn't muster up any sympathy for the rapist who might be getting raped in prison. Guess I'm getting jaded...
One word = karma
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